Traditional Arr. Dave Guard
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|ELSEWHERE ON THIS PAGE:|
|Nick Reynolds (vocal, guitar), Bob Shane (vocal, guitar), Dave Guard (vocal, guitar), Buzz Wheeler (bass):|
|Nick Reynolds (vocal, guitar), Bob Shane (vocal (solo on spanish verses), guitar), Dave Guard (vocal (solo on translations), guitar), Buck Wheat (bass) 10-6-00:|
|Song Specific Liner Notes|
|Other Notes of Interest|
to the Kingston Trio Place Forum by Fred on 2/8/2000, 11:17 pm , in reply
to "Re: Coplas"
. . . I have a copy of BRAVO BIKEL . . . It appears that this LP postdates the KT's version of COPLAS. The liner notes, by Gene Aretsky are dated September, 1959. The English version of the lyrics are:
asked for green pepper,
I'll give you green pepper;
Let's go to the garden
And I'll pick it for you.
They say your family
The woman who loves two
The mule I used to ride
The night I got married
You said it was a black
The Spanish lyrics are:
The liner notes also contain the following: Coplas is a courting song from southern Mexico which was collected by Cynthia Gooding. It has an almost blues form into which thousands of traditional verses have been fitted.
|Posted to the Kingston Trio Place Forum by Karin on 2/9/2000, 8:49 am, in reply to "Re: Coplas"||.
. . I would guess that Bikel may have inspired the KT's
version, though, since he was already a 'name' when [the
Trio] started performing, and he [has been] named as a
definite influence [on the Trio]. The performance dates in
the [liner] notes [of BRAVO BIKEL] . . . are 10/12/58,
and 4/5/59, and I would venture to say they got the song
from him; the arrangement is credited to Bikel.
Editor's Note: The Song "Coplas" was recorded for "The Kingston Trio" Album on Feburary 5, 1958 which was released June 2, 1958. This chronology makes it unlikely that BRAVO BIKEL is the Trio's source of Coplas.
|On 3/24/2004 Pete Curry drops the LINER NOTES an e-mail:||Hi
The Theodore Bikel & Cynthia Gooding LP, "A Young Man and a Maid," Elektra EKL 109, is dated 1956 per the official Elektra discography. So it is definitely a possible source for "Coplas."
Regards, Pete Curry
|. . . and 11/28/2006 Gabe Heler writes in his e-mail to the LINER NOTES:||. . . you mention some controversy as to
whether Theodore Bikel and Cynthia Gooding's version of Coplas
influenced the Trio. I believe this has finally been cleared up
definitively, though not in any liner notes. However, if you were to
purchase the Box Set CD of "The Guard Years" you will note that there is
an additional track included in the Newport Folk Festival '59
performance that was not on the earlier CD release. This track (the
third) is in fact Coplas and includes an expanded introduction that goes
"My two cohorts and I had the privilege of taking a small vacation in Mexico. While we were down there we had the privilege of picking up this next tune as a matter of fact."
"That's not all we picked up"
"In fact we picked it up from two of the most famous mariachis in the business down there: Miss Cynthia Gooding and Theodore Bikel. When you hear the translation of this particular tune, because David, our linguist, gives it somewhat of a literal translation. I think you'll all agree that it's truly a charming little Mexican love song."
"Toque la guitarra andole!"
And then they launch into possibly the most spirited performance of Coplas available on any of their albums. So there it is, from the horse's mouth!
|Covers by other artists|
|Artist's Name||ALBUM||CATALOG NO.|
|Cynthia Gooding & Theodore Bikel||A Young Man and a Maid [Elektra EKL 109)||1956 (LP)|
|Theodore Bikel||BRAVO BIKEL||1958 (LP)|
|Cynthia Gooding & Theodore Bikel||Folk Song America, Vol 2 [Smithsonian / Folkways]||1991 / 1994 (CD)|
|Gregg Smith Singers / Texas Boys Chorus||World of Folksong||1993 (CD)|
|Chile verde me pediste.
Chile verde te dare.
Vama nos para la huer ta con al la te lo cortare.
(Tell them what it means then)
"You want green peppers?(Si!) I'll give you green peppers.
Come out to the garden." ("Coplas!")
Dice que los de fu casa.
Ninguno me puede ver.
La mula que yo mente la
monto hoy mi compadre.
La noche que me case. No
pudde dormirme un rato.